Prove that if $a,b,c>0,$ then \[ \frac{ab}{3a+4b+5c}+\frac{bc}{3b+4c+5a}+\frac{ca}{3c+4a+5b}\le \frac{a+b+c}{12}. \] Nikolai Nikolov
Problem
Source: Bulgarian TST1/2006 Problem 5
Tags: inequalities, inequalities unsolved, algebra
31.05.2006 19:07
it is not really tough. You only need to use $\frac{1}{3a+4b+5c} \leq \frac{1}{36}\left(\frac{1}{a+b}+\frac{2}{a+c}+\frac{3}{b+c}\right)$. If I'm not wrong, the rest is easy.
31.05.2006 19:17
I used expansion . It's equivalent to $\sum (60a^4+11a^3b-432a^2b^2+73ab^3+288a^2bc)\geq 0$ . I have an ungly proof for the last..... Do you have a better solution for the last ??
31.05.2006 19:23
what is "the last"?
31.05.2006 19:25
This one $\sum (60a^4+11a^3b-432a^2b^2+73ab^3+288a^2bc)\geq 0$ . BTW , Soarer your solution is very nice
31.05.2006 19:33
hi, here is my solution : $x = 3a+4b+5c , y = 3b+4c+5a , z = 3c+4a+5b$ $x\geq12\sqrt[12]{a^3b^4c^5} \dots$ $\frac{1}{12}\times({\frac{ab}{\sqrt[12]{a^3b^4c^5}}+\dots)\geq S}$ $rearangement \Rightarrow \frac{a+b+c}{12}\geq S$ .
31.05.2006 20:41
Soarer wrote: it is not really tough. You only need to use $\frac{1}{3a+4b+5c} \leq \frac{1}{36}\left(\frac{1}{a+b}+\frac{2}{a+c}+\frac{3}{b+c}\right)$. If I'm not wrong, the rest is easy. Great! Very elegant! to toetoe: you need to proove S<=... not S>=...
31.05.2006 21:40
i have just edited the reply.
31.05.2006 23:44
Soarer did you use some type of fudging to get to that inequality you posted. if so could fill in some details into how you used it. im just learning this nice techique. thanks
01.06.2006 07:13
Recall the inequality $\sum \frac{ab}{a+b+2c} \leq \frac{3}{4}$ My idea comes from here, so I try to break $3a+4b+5c$ into $a+b$, $b+c$, $c+a$. Then you can let $3a+4b+5c = m(a+b)+n(b+c)+k(c+a)$ and find $m=1, n=3, c=2$
06.06.2006 11:26
Soarer wrote: it is not really tough. You only need to use $\frac{1}{3a+4b+5c} \leq \frac{1}{36}\left(\frac{1}{a+b}+\frac{2}{a+c}+\frac{3}{b+c}\right)$. If I'm not wrong, the rest is easy. I have difficult in last step. I have obtained $\sum {a} \geq \sum \frac{ab}{a+b} + \sum \frac{ab}{c+b}$ which I cannot solve. Please a hint. Thank you very much.
06.06.2006 12:23
The idea first comes from \[ \frac1x+\frac1y\geq\frac2{\sqrt{xy}}\geq\frac4{x+y}. \] This is used to solve \[ \frac{ab}{2c+a+b}+\frac{bc}{2a+b+c}+\frac{ca}{2b+c+a}\leq\frac{a+b+c}4. \] Following Soarer, and use $1/x+1/y\geq4/(x+y$ again, you get it Manlio.
06.06.2006 13:10
Sorry, but if I use your idea I get $abc \sum (a) \geq \sum (ab)^2$ which is wrong. I cannot find my error.
06.06.2006 16:09
As you said Manlio the inequality is equivalent to $\frac{ca+ab}{a+b}+\frac{bc+ab}{b+c}+\frac{bc+ca}{c+a}\leq a+b+c$ . Expand erything and you will have to prove that $b^3a+c^3b+a^3c\geq abc(a+b+c)$ Divide with $abc$ and you will have to prove that $\frac{b^2}{c}+\frac{c^2}{a}+\frac{a^2}{b}\geq a+b+c$ which is true by Cauchy
06.06.2006 21:00
manlio wrote: Soarer wrote: it is not really tough. You only need to use $\frac{1}{3a+4b+5c} \leq \frac{1}{36}\left(\frac{1}{a+b}+\frac{2}{a+c}+\frac{3}{b+c}\right)$. If I'm not wrong, the rest is easy. I have difficult in last step. I have obtained $\sum {a} \geq \sum \frac{ab}{a+b} + \sum \frac{ab}{c+b}$ which I cannot solve. Please a hint. Thank you very much. $\sum \frac{ab}{a+b} \leq \sum \frac{ac}{c+b}$ by rearrangement. Then we just add up.
07.06.2006 08:36
Thank you very much
08.06.2006 10:19
It's teribble if someone can give solution with SOS.
21.06.2006 18:01
Lovasz wrote: It's teribble if someone can give solution with SOS. I solved this problem with SOS . The basic idea is this expration \[ \frac{ab}{3a+4b+5c}-\frac{ab(5a+4b+3c)}{16(a+b+c)^2}=\frac{ab(a-c)^2}{16(a+b+c)^2(3a+4b+5c)} \]
24.01.2015 12:09
Prove that if $a,b,c,d>0,$ then \[ \frac{abc}{3a+4b+5c+6d}+\frac{bcd}{3b+4c+5d+6a}+\frac{cda}{3c+4d+5a+6b}+\frac{dab}{3d+4a+5b+6c}\]\[\le \frac{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}{18}. \]
06.02.2015 16:59
My solution: multiply everything by $P= \prod(3a+4b+5c) $ and you get $ (a+b+c)P >= \sum abP/(3a+4b+5c) $ and than you use Muirheads inequality and it's done . Equality for $ a=b=c$.
22.03.2018 19:59
Soarer wrote: it is not really tough. You only need to use $\frac{1}{3a+4b+5c} \leq \frac{1}{36}\left(\frac{1}{a+b}+\frac{2}{a+c}+\frac{3}{b+c}\right)$. If I'm not wrong, the rest is easy. How do you finish the proof from this?
23.03.2018 07:26
Duarti wrote: How do you finish the proof from this?
Corrected proof: \[\frac{1}{36}\sum ab\left(\frac{1}{a+b}+\frac{2}{a+c}+\frac{3}{b+c}\right) = \frac{1}{36}\left(\sum\left(\frac{a(b+c)}{a+b}\right) + 2a+2b+2c \right) \stackrel{\text{Rearrangement}}{\leq} \frac{1}{36}(3a+3b+3c) = \frac{a+b+c}{12}\] Ok, the summation is very confusing, I'll check it later, the above might still be incorrect.
23.03.2018 08:53
Vrangr, It should be reversed. No?
24.03.2018 05:54
imortal wrote: Prove that if $a,b,c>0,$ then \[ \frac{ab}{3a+4b+5c}+\frac{bc}{3b+4c+5a}+\frac{ca}{3c+4a+5b}\le \frac{a+b+c}{12}. \] Nikolai Nikolov two lines down
22.09.2021 12:07
Observe by Titu that \[\frac1{3a+4b+5c}=\frac1{(a+b)+2(a+c)+3(b+c)} \le\frac1{36}\left(\frac1{a+b}+\frac2{a+c}+\frac3{b+c}\right),\]hence by rearrangement we have \begin{align*} \sum_\mathrm{cyc}\frac{ab}{3a+4b+5c} &\le\sum_\mathrm{cyc}\frac{ab}{36}\left(\frac1{a+b}+\frac2{a+c}+\frac3{b+c}\right)\\ &=\frac1{36}\sum_\mathrm{cyc}\frac{ab+2bc+3ca}{a+b}\\ &=\frac1{36}\sum_\mathrm{cyc}\left(3c+\frac{ab}{a+b}-\frac{ac}{a+b}\right) \le\frac{a+b+c}{12}. \end{align*}
21.11.2021 03:09
Here's some motivation behind the above solution. It seems pretty natural to conjecture that if $3,4,5$ are replaced by any $x,y,z \in \mathbb R^+$, then the inequality still holds true. In particular, the conjecture is $$\frac{ab}{xa + yb + zc} + \frac{bc}{xb + yc + za} + \frac{ca}{xc + ya + zb} \le \frac{a+b+c}{x+y+z}$$But if we fix $x,y$ and tend $z \to \infty$, then our conjecture implies $$\frac{ab}{c} + \frac{bc}{a} + \frac{c}{ab} \le a+b+c$$But this clearly isn't true (in fact, the inequality is not true if the sign is reversed). So our conjecture is false. So as seen above, if $5$ was replaced by a larger number, then the inequality won't be true. So we somehow have to exploit the fact that $5$ is near to $3,4$. This gives the motivation to pair $5c$ with $3a,4b$.
17.07.2023 06:48
toetoe wrote: hi, here is my solution : $x = 3a+4b+5c , y = 3b+4c+5a , z = 3c+4a+5b$ $x\geq12\sqrt[12]{a^3b^4c^5} \dots$ $\frac{1}{12}\times({\frac{ab}{\sqrt[12]{a^3b^4c^5}}+\dots)\geq S}$ $rearangement \Rightarrow \frac{a+b+c}{12}\geq S$ . I don’t think that is correct since $\sum_{cyc} \frac{ab}{\sqrt[12]{a^3b^4c^5}} \le \frac{a + b + c}{12}$ is visibly not true as the RHS is more “mixed” than the LHS. Does anyone have a solution besides @Soarer’s and @TheUltimate123’s very beautiful intercalation? It’s a bit difficult to see.