Prove that there exists a triangle which can be cut into 2005 congruent triangles.
Problem
Source: APMO 2005 Problem 3
Tags: algorithm, geometry proposed, geometry
23.03.2005 17:17
yptsoi has an ingenious design for this problem, so I'll leave this for him
23.03.2005 18:04
mecrazywong wrote: yptsoi has an ingenious design for this problem, so I'll leave this for him It is not ingenious at all... but anyway here is my solution: $2005=41^2+18^2$, so a right-angled triangle with adjacent sides lengths $1681$ and $738$ can be cut into $41^2$ congruent right-angled triangle with adjacent sides lengths $41$ and $18$. Similarly a right-angled triangle with adjacent sides lengths $738$ and $324$ can be cut into $18^2$ congruent right-angled triangle with adjacent sides lengths $41$ and $18$. Combining these two triangles gives another big right-angled triangle which can be cut into $2005$ congruent triangles. Therefore such triangle exists.
23.03.2005 23:54
If I only realized that 2005=41 <sup>2</sup> +18 <sup>2</sup> ..... Nice solution, nevertheless, though I believe this is about the only way to solve the problem...
24.03.2005 01:04
Also $2005=39^2+22^2$. To find these you can use Gaussian integers (although it is something I realized the next day...): $2005=5 \times 401=(2+i)(2-i)(20+i)(20-i)$ Now multiplying out in this fashion: 1st-3rd, 2nd-4th you get the pair $39, 22$, while doing 1st-4th, 2nd-3rd gives $41, 18$.
24.03.2005 11:18
Severius wrote: Also $2005=39^2+22^2$. To find these you can use Gaussian integers (although it is something I realized the next day...): $2005=5 \times 401=(2+i)(2-i)(20+i)(20-i)$ Now multiplying out in this fashion: 1st-3rd, 2nd-4th you get the pair $39, 22$, while doing 1st-4th, 2nd-3rd gives $41, 18$. Severius: this is a nice method to decompose an integer as the sum of two squares, but it works only for very special cases: for example you cannot apply it to prove that $73=8^2+3^2$ and $97=9^2+4^2$. Do you know a general algorithm which allows us to decompose an integer as the sum of two squares.
24.03.2005 12:31
A number can be expressed as the sum of two squares if and only if it does not contain prime factor of the form 4k+3 Still it is clearly possible for 3 or 6. I don't know whether that is possible for 7 or not.
24.03.2005 15:28
Darkseer wrote: A number can be expressed as the sum of two squares if and only if it does not contain prime factor of the form 4k+3 Still it is clearly possible for 3 or 6. I don't know whether that is possible for 7 or not. Not quite. A number can be expressed as the sum of two squares iff every prime factor of the form 4k+3 is raised to an even power.
24.03.2005 15:50
yes, that's right... and to al.M.V., i don't think it was necesary to realize that $2005=41^2+18^2$.. Just make the construction in general (i.e., for $n=a^2+b^2$) and then since $2005=4k+1$ it can be written in the form $a^2+b^2$ for some $a,b$, so the triangle exists (it didn't say you had to put an example of such triangle.. just show its existance) ...
25.03.2005 02:11
That's right, billzhao. Thanks for pointing out my mistake. By the way, 21=4*5+1 can not be expressed as the sum of two squares.
25.03.2005 02:31
yes sorry... i wanted to say that the prime divisors were of that form (2005 is not a prime!!! ahh!! ), $2005=5.401$ (and hope 401 is prime!) ...
09.12.2012 15:50
$ 2005=5*401=(2^2+1)(20^2+1) =40^2+20^2+2^2+1 =(40-1)^2*40+20^2+2^2 =39^2+22^2 $
15.07.2023 08:24
2005 is 5*401, and both 5 and 401 are 1 mod 4, so 2005 is a sum of two squares. Consider an acute triangle $\triangle ABC$. Let $D$ be the foot from $A$ to $BC$. Split right triangles $\triangle ABD$ and $\triangle ACD$ into $b^2$ and $c^2$ smaller similar triangles respectively such that $b^2+c^2=2005.$
27.11.2023 04:56
john0512 wrote: 2005 is 5*401, and both 5 and 401 are 1 mod 4, so 2005 is a sum of two squares. Consider an acute triangle $\triangle ABC$. Let $D$ be the foot from $A$ to $BC$. Split right triangles $\triangle ABD$ and $\triangle ACD$ into $b^2$ and $c^2$ smaller similar triangles respectively such that $b^2+c^2=2005.$ how do you know those triangles are congruent?
27.11.2023 04:57
David_Kim_0202 wrote: john0512 wrote: 2005 is 5*401, and both 5 and 401 are 1 mod 4, so 2005 is a sum of two squares. Consider an acute triangle $\triangle ABC$. Let $D$ be the foot from $A$ to $BC$. Split right triangles $\triangle ABD$ and $\triangle ACD$ into $b^2$ and $c^2$ smaller similar triangles respectively such that $b^2+c^2=2005.$ how do you know those triangles are congruent? oh nvm I misread the problem