$\textbf{N6.}$ Let $a,b$ be positive integers. If $a,b$ satisfy that \begin{align*} \frac{a+1}{b} + \frac{b+1}{a} \end{align*}is also a positive integer, show that \begin{align*} \frac{a+b}{gcd(a,b)^2} \end{align*}is a Fibonacci number. Proposed by usjl
Problem
Source: IMOC 2020
Tags: number theory, greatest common divisor, IMOC
05.09.2020 10:21
Wlog $a>b$ If they are equal it's obvious. The problem is equivalent to $a^2+b^2+a+b-kab=0$ see this as quadratic for $a$ Then $a_2$ is the other root. $a + a_2 = bk-1 \implies a_2 \in \mathbb{Z}$ $a a_2 = b^2+b \implies a_2 \in \mathbb{N} , a_2 \leq b$ So we got a tuple $(b,a_2)$ with smaller sum except they are equal. So get the tuple with smallest sum named $(a,b)$ according to above we should have $a=b$. Then $a=2 or 1$ $\textbf{Case 1.}$ $a=2 , k=3$ Then we have the previous answer in our descend was $(3a-1-b , a)$ that is $(3,2)$ , $(6,3)$ , $(14,6) , \dots$ and these all work. $\textbf{Case 2.}$ $a=1 , k=4$ Then the previous answer in our descend was $(4a-1-b,a)$ , So we find $(1,1),(2,1),(6,2),(21,6),\dots$ and they all work. Now I should just prove that they work is the second relation: For the first case I prove it becomes 5,1 alternatively I'll post the rest 4 hours later[my class began lol]
05.09.2020 10:42
Yes Tintarn, now everything is right. #1731
05.09.2020 14:03
@above: I hope the edit makes it clear? It is just standard Vieta jumping anyway... To finish, in Case 2, it is similarly easy to prove that the quotient becomes $2$ and $3$ alternatingly. So, funnily enough, although the problem is actually related to Fibonacci numbers (since the sequences of solutions clearly are), the actual problem statement is a bit of a red herring, since the eventual set of values is just $\{1,2,3,5\}$ which happens to be a subset of the Fibonacci sequence...
05.09.2020 19:07
Oops I fell asleep before I finished typing this up.
11.09.2020 13:30
One generalization that I think is true but haven't had time to prove is that when both 1's are replaced by $k$'s where $k$ is a given positive integer, there are only finitely many possible values for $(a+b) ^2/\gcd(a,b)^2$.
12.09.2020 07:48
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22.11.2020 17:03
Tintarn wrote: @above: I hope the edit makes it clear? It is just standard Vieta jumping anyway... To finish, in Case 2, it is similarly easy to prove that the quotient becomes $2$ and $3$ alternatingly. So, funnily enough, although the problem is actually related to Fibonacci numbers (since the sequences of solutions clearly are), the actual problem statement is a bit of a red herring, since the eventual set of values is just $\{1,2,3,5\}$ which happens to be a subset of the Fibonacci sequence... I agree, it mislead me, at first I thought "Hmm.. for any $a$ number only those $b$ values can satisfy for which their sum is a Fibonacci number times a square number..." Then after some time, I realized, maybe it just has finite solutions, and Vieta lead to those solutions and I was disappointed, since the solutions just "luckily" satisfy the condition, have no fundamental relation to the Fibonacci-sequence.
19.12.2020 10:49
misinnyo wrote: Tintarn wrote: @above: I hope the edit makes it clear? It is just standard Vieta jumping anyway... To finish, in Case 2, it is similarly easy to prove that the quotient becomes $2$ and $3$ alternatingly. So, funnily enough, although the problem is actually related to Fibonacci numbers (since the sequences of solutions clearly are), the actual problem statement is a bit of a red herring, since the eventual set of values is just $\{1,2,3,5\}$ which happens to be a subset of the Fibonacci sequence... I agree, it mislead me, at first I thought "Hmm.. for any $a$ number only those $b$ values can satisfy for which their sum is a Fibonacci number times a square number..." Then after some time, I realized, maybe it just has finite solutions, and Vieta lead to those solutions and I was disappointed, since the solutions just "luckily" satisfy the condition, have no fundamental relation to the Fibonacci-sequence. Yeah the intention is to troll the students a bit :p (I mean it's a camp and I also want to have some fun(X)) But yeah it has nothing to do with the Fibonacci sequence. I just got the solutions $1,2,3,5$ and be like, hey, they all happen to be Fibonacci numbers! If $1$ weren't a solution, I would have probably asked them to prove that the number has to be a prime :p.
02.01.2022 07:06
Vieta jumping and pell equation